Early to Middle 1980's Clinic/Master Class  Aud , B  with  '85 PASIC Clinic w/ Tim Landers    Aud , B   67'45"

1991     Le Café  , (Audiomind) +    Modern Drummer Festival       B/B+   56'45"

'94?       Baked Potato   w/ David Garfield and John Pena     Aud , B+    70'43"  ( filler Pasic '89) 

1998      Drum Clinic     no info     60'33"    SB , A